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(Yousaikou Yokosuka)
“Fortress Port of Yokosuka”
Our favorite submarine loli is back for its third episode, and while it ain’t as packed with as much action as the previous weeks, it’s still an equally superb episode. And why’s that? Because of the puns, of course!
Ahem* Terrible jokes aside, it was a pretty good episodeseriouslybecause while there was a general lack of naval combat, it was easily made up by the sheer amount of both plot and character development. Indeed, as Gunzou and the crew make it back to Yokosuka after two years, change is the name of the game, and things are really starting to get rolling in the background.
First and foremost? The obvious change in the Fog following their deployment of mental modelsmost of which have now developed individual personalities, and from there, evolved tactics and ways of thinking as well. And it’s something that’s both demonstrated via the unprecedented attack on an inland port by not one, but two battleships and by Takao’s decision to leave the fleet of her own free will in hopes of making Gunzou her captain (OH THE PUNS!). Furthermore, Iona’s obviously changing as wellasking of questions about the world by her own free will, showing interest in people other than her crew, and actually having an answer as to her purpose. Needless to say, Gunzou’s choice to board the 401 and his subsequent victories against the Fog over the last two years have definitely done enough to break the stagnant status quo. The problem? By breaking the status quo, he’s forcing things to move forward, and it’s a decision that might very well cause humanity’s destruction much sooner than expected.
With that said though, it was arguably the right choice considering the fact the humanity’s days were probably numbered either way, and it’s something that highlights Chihaya Gunzou’s awesomeness as a captain and as a human being in general. Because ultimately, one can say that he was the only one willing to make the tough choice (though I guess he was the only one given this choice), and it’s something that may just very well give humanity their only chance to successfully fight back. Combine that with his characteristicshe’s decisive, willing to take risks, skilled with naval combat, able to talk it up with the best of them (even the potential new Prime Minister), and takes responsibility for his decisionsand you arguably get the best humanity has to offer. And it’s just fitting, as there ain’t anyone better to fight off the Fog than he is at this pointespecially since his designation as a “traitor to humanity” makes it so he doesn’t have any political allegiances or anything of the sort. Granted, that doesn’t mean he won’t end up getting caught in any political gamesmanship on the part of others that do have allegiances, but gosh darn, all that sets up are some awesome scenes of him and Iona just sticking big middle fingers at those people and not giving a rat’s ass.
But yeah, the aforementioned make this week essentially an episode that gives us a necessary and meaningful break from the action. And that’s without talking about the potential meanings behind Gunzou’s discussion on “illogical whims,” his mention of humans “seeking meaning in meaningless things,” or Kita Ryoukan’s remark about Iona being virtually indistinguishable from a real human. Looking forward, it just looks like it’s going to be darn awesome (pun-filled) ride, and it’s a ride that’ll be on RC from this point forward. In response to popular demand, both Zanibas (caps) and I (post itself) will be combining together to give Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova weekly coverage, and it really is as they say: two heads are better than one. You don’t have to take my word for it though, as the Fog obviously agree toosending not one, but two battleships into the fray next week!
Author’s Note: Please refrain from spoilers beyond this point in the manga. If you must, please use spoiler tags.
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Can’t wait for Takao to meet up with Chihaya again She will earn her name as “Tsundere Heavy Cruiser”
It’ll be probably after 3-5 ep
I suddenly have a bad feeling about this. Among a few other things, I don’t know why they’re completely removing Yamato from everything. Maya and Kongo had the conversation that Kongo and Yamato were supposed to have, 400 and 402 didn’t mention their supreme flagship at all (they actually seem to be operating on their own), and worst of all, …(minor spoilers)…there was no sign of either Maruri or the Hakugei, which leaves me absolutely confused as to how they’re going to fight off Kirishima and Haruna Overall, a good episode, but I’m beginning to worry about some of the storyline changes that they seem to be setting up.
I think they were more than just minor spoilers , Hakugei plays a big role in the next battle. She’s supposed to be the decoy AND would become the ship responsible for sinking Kirishima and Haruna with Iona’s corrosive torpedo. Which brings in another worrisome part, they didn’t have the scene of the torpedo being transported to Hakugei. It feels like they’ll have Gunzou take out the 2 ships on his own …. . But still, the CG scenes are much more natural than before . But the storyline seems to be getting more and more divergent. Especially since the director of Devil Survivor 2 and Danganronpa is in charge of this…….I just hope they won’t butcher the ensuing epic fight , especially the next fight involving Zordan’s U-2501 and the I-401
Regarding your first spoilerThat’s my fear as well – it’s going to be I-401 taking out the two BBs single handedly, which is a big change as Longhaul noted. I really don’t know how the anime will handle this other than (a) SUPRISE! Hakugei to the rescue, but that still doesn’t make any sense in terms of how Hakugei has that one corrosive torpedo. Can’t see Iona letting it get stolen; (b) I-401 some how launches, or already silently dropped a corrosive torpedo which is then started later remotely. In either case, same result as when it was fired by Hakugei. Really, I think it’s (b) since they already ditched the scene where Hakugei acts as a diversion so that Iona can actually pick up the crew at Kita’s place. That’s most of Hakugei’s role other than making the killing blow.
I wonder if there is budget constraints because…They did not show Maruri Hibiki meet up with the I-401 crew when they docked.
IDK why that would be a budget constraint. It’s not some huge flashy battle so I would think that type of scene would be less expensive compared to others. If anything, I can only see possible time constraints which is something I was a bit concerned about. We’re covering 1 manga volume every two episodes. That can be done, but it’s still a fairly fast past IMO.The real reason I suspect isthat scene was cut simply because they also cut (unless there’s a surprise appearance) Hakugei’s part entirely so there’s no reason to show Maruri.
Correction to my post above: Unless they add back a lot of material, it’s faster than 2 episodes per manga volume now. With all the cuts, EP 03 covered blew through all of manga volume 02 which ends Gunzou & crew boarding I-401 at Kita’s house (CH 11). One episode for a roughly 200 page manga volume!? >_<
I’m more than a little worried at this point. I agree (and posted as much) with Radiosonde that those are more than just “minor” changes. Can’t even thing of where to start with leaving out Yamato. Given the “virtual tea room” conversation (FYI – also anime original), I have to assume Yamato won’t be making a surprise appearance later, though at this point I probably shouldn’t make any predictions.
With all the material that was cut I honestly would not be surprised if this winds up covering past volume 6.The fact that a human ship was what ‘sunk’ Haruna and Kirishima was a big deal, so I cant say I like that change.
Very true – I used a lesser spoiler for my example, but that’s certainly true. FWIW, here’s some other things I noticedLOTS OF SPOILERS – UP TO DATE MANGA READERS ONLY– Can NOT understate leaving out Yamato. Directly impacts the whole Admiralty code plot and the rivalry/internal surreptitious struggle between her and Shouzou/Musashi. Yamato is pulling a LOT of strings IMO and is one of the three major factions shown in the manga so far.- Completely left out Kotono who Yamato “coincidentally” (yeah, right) modeled her MM after. Big chunk of Gunzou’s background gone w/o Kotono, and my guess is that Kotono plays in to more than just being Gunzou unscalable wall.- Along with Hakugei III (sub) and Maruri, also deleted Cruz and US vice-admiral Uragami. They are fairly minor compared to others, but the do give bits of important info now and again. Plus Cruz’s marines are the only troops Kamikage can trust.- Speaking of Kamikage, where did he go?- WTF happened to the vibration war head? Isn’t that the reason they went there in the first place? With out Hakugei, how do they even get it for transport.- Iona is no where near as curious/chatty about human behavior. Not saying she isn’t interested at all, but she’s all business during “office hours”, and even at other times fairly introverted (except while watching a certain anime :D). I get what they are trying to do (MM’s “evolving/more human like”, but that’s pretty clear from just the manga material without being almost “in-your-face about it”.- Also, she never left I-401 at that time. Arguable, but IMO the anime makes Gunzou less capable of handling things if Iona has to always be there to protect him. Only reason he and the crew escaped Kita (or even lived) in the anime was because of Iona. – Makie presented much differently than in the manga (more like a typical, spoiled gir rather than someone mature for her age with a defined goal in mind). Also, at least for now (perhaps for good) the reason why she escaped (finding “grandpa”) is deleted. Her origins are a subplot, but one I think is important for character depth and certain other characters’ development. The mansion scene so far is the best on an emotional level IMO.- Kita’s speech altered, especially the “too dangerous for our valued young people” phrase. Not a big deal, but he’s really a behind the scene’s guy rather than blunt force UNTIL he has no other options. He’s also not that stupid – at that time, there wasn’t any choice but to let Gunzou and the crew go to fight the two BBs. Lastly, trust issue IMO dealt with much more effectively in manga. Almost sounded like a confession in the anime.
As much as I’m trying to enjoy the series, I am also very concerned at the apparent direction the animators are taking the material. They’ve taken a lot of material out and rewritten the storyline in several places. To be honest, the biggest gripe I have about the anime is that they’ve reduced Iona to a near-emotionless automaton, complete with near-monotone voice. She’s far more emotive and expressive in the manga which gives her a much better dynamic with Gunzou and the crew. The only conclusion I can draw is that this anime is intended to be a standalone series with no plans for a future continuation, so their using the manga as a ‘guide’ and working an original plotline that is bound within the series length.
@Ascii78At this stage I’m just hoping it doesn’t end up like World War Z the movie. Please for god’s sake the worst case scenario could just be an anime original ending with Gunzou singlehandedly taking on Kongou who just so happens to be the “Supreme Battleship of the Fog Fleet’ and taking her out would annihilate the Fog fleet completely. Oh and Takao, Haruna and Kirishima join him in the ‘epic’ 4 vs 1 battle. And the vibration torpedo plot is conveniently discarded because ‘we have an unlimited supply of anti-fog weapons’ so screw the torpedo. We (Gunzou & gang) can save humanity by ourselves. That doesn’t sound so bad.
At this stage, I’m reasonably certain that we’re headed for an anime original ending.On the one hand, I’m a little disappointed by this because the source material is so good; but, on the other hand, I think this is somewhat inevitable and to be expected – if the plan weren’t for an anime original ending, where exactly would you want to end things? It’s not like there’s a good stopping point at any point in the manga storyline; you either have to change things considerably or you have to end the anime with one hell of a cliffhanger.
I can think of one place where they could break it (obviously, lots of manga spoilers)After the Takao/U-2501 battle. Takao would be stuck with Yamato/I-400, and I-401 and the Hakugei would be heading out to sea, though they might have to leave Makie’s subplot unresolved. There would be a lot of ground to cover, but it couldn’t possibly be much faster than they’re currently going.I’m thinking something along the lines of: Ep 4 – Sink Kirishima and Haruna, Iona heads to Iwo JimaEp 5 – Iona Vs U-2501Ep 6 – Makie/HarunaEp 7 – Attack on the mansionEp 8 – Iona’s arrival at Iwo Jima, special forces landingEp 9 – Battle of Iwo JimaEp 10 – Depart Iwo Jima/Takao Vs U-2501Ep 11 – Iona Vs U-2501, dummy arrives in portEp 12 – Takao & Yamato/Iona and Hakugei arrange a rendezvous point/Kisishima, Haruna, and Maya arrive in the northern region.That’d leave Repulse and Vampire out (for now), and leave Makie’s subplot unresolved, but it’d follow the source material better, and leave things nicely set up for a season 2.
(Up to date manga readers only.)I suspect they’ll go a little faster than that, even. Probably combine the Makie/Haruharu and battle at the mansion into a single episode, the events at Iwo Jima into one episode, and the last push “ending” will be breaking Kongou’s blockade. Things seeming to be setting up for Kongou to be the main antagonist here.I have no idea what they’ll do with U-2501; how much of the Shouzou storyline do they want to try to cover? T’would be a shame; Takao vs. U-2501 is one of my favorite battles so far.
I wasn’t making a prediction as to what they will do, just offering an idea of what they could have done in 12 eps to maintain continuity with the manga, and end it at a decent break point.
FWIW, my initial guess was that the anime ends with volume 06 end. There really isn’t a good “true end” stopping point as the series is ongoing. IMO 12 episodes is barely enough to do a good, if less than ideal, job of covering the six manga volumes.After EP 03, I have to agree with you in terms of an anime only ending. With all the cuts made, barring a good chunk being added back later, I suspect there will also be a lot of anime only filler material. Maybe instead they will try to somehow work in material from manga chapters 37-48+. After EP 03, all bets are off in terms of content as far as I’m concerned.
Wooo! Takao has decided to ‘jump ship’ to Gunzou!
That KanColle x Arpeggio crossover end card… (Same ship, BTW.)And just to add, Takao and Takao.
I know it’s been said plenty already, but the look of this show is just so amazing! I never would have expected that 3D rendering of this sort could pull off the anime look without being jarring (and that’s just for the humans. For the ships, it’s even better). They’ve really outdone themselves with the characters’ body language and facial expressions.Anyway, moving on…The question I will be looking to have answered following this episode is why the Fog had, initially, extremely sophisticated bodies, but equally unsophisticated minds. The notion that technology could arise without consciousness really contradicts the meaning of technology, and flies in the face of reason… meaning that the explanation will be really, really interesting when it arrives.Lastly: Ordinarily I would feel the urge to rant about the rational basis for human irrationality, because the “strawman logical robot” outlook can get pretty grating.. I was therefore pleasantly surprised at how well Gunzou handled the explanation. He’s quickly earned a lot of my respect.
As much as I love the series so far, I just can’t get enough of Takao, lol.I did love how Chihaya just takes the (potential) Prime Minister’s words and throws them right back when he tries to use the old “real, experienced soldiers” excuse to make Chihaya hand over 401, about how such things made no difference all this time. In a way, it sort of parallels with Kongou’s talk with Maya in how the Fog have, at first, constantly just kept beating the human race with sheer brute force and “invincibility”, but no tactics, but now, after spending time “as humans”, they’re learning about tactics and strategy. So both Chihaya and Kongou, for their respective sides, are having to explain to others on how they have to learn, adapt, and evolve in order to keep pace with the other side and not simply follow the exact same, rigid patterns they’re used to or they’ll eventually lose.
It was also adorable seeing Iona’s reaction when they were scanning the sub XD
I’m surprised that the army still exists at this point . They should have the army go under the command of the navy instead, seeing as how their enemy operates on land . But I just hope this show won’t end up like DeSU2, since it’s the same director and the anime has begun to diverge quite a bit from the manga.
Glad you decided to pick this one up ;)I found it amusing Iona lifted her shirt, in addition to revealing the supergravity cannon, when she was asked by Iori to ‘open up her belly’ for maintenance. Plus, I thought Iona’s reaction to being scanned was cute as heck. In fact, I find nearly every action Iona takes to be fairly cute.Takao is still my favorite though. The scene where she reads the book describing a captain’s job pretty much sealed the deal for me….also, Takao would like Gunzou to take control of her bridge. :3
I’m impressed with the quick posting, thanks so much.I’ve noticed another change in Iona since her early days: she blinks. If you look at the first episode, and then the parts that take place two years ago, she never really blinks. Compare it with this episode and you’ll find she does seem to blink normally, and even her eyes aren’t quite as wide. Basically she seems more human and is rising out of the uncanny valley from episode 1.I was wondering how they would adapt the plot from the manga when they only have two episodes left, I knew they would have to go with an anime original plot, but I didn’t know to what extent or what changes they made. I believe this is the first episode that deviates from the manga plot, so things start changing from here on out.It’s unfortunate, but necessary since I’m assuming this show to be one cour, though I will miss those other plot elements that add so much to the greatness of the manga.I won’t get into the plot changes because there are so many here who know it much better than I, but I can’t help but think that the next ep might end up being somewhat lacking for manga readers, for reasons outlined in spoilers already. Still I’m looking forward to it.On to more pleasant things, I find it amusing when Iona showed lifted her shirt to “show her belly”. I love little touches like that, they can add a great deal to the feel of a scene, and add up to improve the show in the long haul. Speaking of which, all the little things that the animators have been adding in the background are impressive. The way a dock worker adjusts his hat, the way characters not the main focus of the shot move, the little ways that the characters themselves move, and all they’ve done to make this look as much like “traditional” anime as possible, help make this a spectacular visual treat.Speaking of which, Kirishima, is the first character (as far as I can tell) who looks noticeably different than she did in the mangaThe little girl also does a bit, but not to such an extent. Also it might have just been the clothes.A few other things, Iona’s adorable little shiver, the way she locked lasers on everyone, Haruna having the same voice I imagined her having? Also I-400 and I-402 being there (in the manga they surfaced right behind Takao shortly after she surfaced) and I’m looking forward to the next ep. A bit disappointed that it would be like the manga, but at least they’re doing the material fair justice given the limitations.
“Basically she seems more human and is rising out of the uncanny valley from episode 1.”I noticed this too, she was much more interactive and less like a doll.
Speaking of which, Kirishima, is the first character (as far as I can tell) who looks noticeably different than she did in the manga.Really almost all the characters got an design “upgrade” to some degree in the anime IMO. Even Takoa <3 looks better in the anime. Kirishima by far is the most noticeable, but I also see a noticeable difference with Gunzou as well.
They’re using the design off the Vol4 cover (Chapter 18). Not how she looked at this point in the series, but it’s still one of the manga designs.
Wow… not at all what I expected. They really gutted the source material. :< The name's been already thrown out a lot so not like it's a spoiler anymore, but IMO taking out Yamato and all the associated plot lines with her is like making a WWII documentary and leaving out Japan or the Soviet Union. It's a big deal. There are a lot of other things as well, a couple of them mentioned in Shiden's spoiler though I wouldn't call those two "minor".The anime seems to be focusing primarily on Iona and Gunzou – Iona in particular is getting a bigger role/anime only scenes than in the source material. Obviously she's a main character in the manga so it's not like she doesn't get a lot of "screen time" as it is. It wouldn't be a a real issue if it didn't come at the expense of other characters/plots/etc. Personally, I think the anime changes her character a bit as well, but that's relatively minor compared to the other changes. Even some "small things" are being changed (with no apparent reason) which give a different perception of the relationships between the various parties. For example:In the manga, there wasn’t a single navy person with a gun. They were ALL maintenance/supply people who warmly greeted the I-401 crew. Why does it matter? Well, aside from the “How did the army instantly and quietly overwhelm so many heavily armed navy personnel without a single shot fired” issue, the Japanese military (and thus government) is split along Navy/Army lines. There is a great deal of friction between the two factions with each side trying to undermine the other, and the basis for all of this is how each side views Gunzou/I-401 and the appropriate method in which to interact with them. This is a fairly big plot line in the manga. I’m honestly at a loss as to why so much has been cut/altered. Just to be clear, I could add at least a half-dozen other material changes to the above. Does this make the anime bad? IMO, no. But is that really the appropriate standard here, or for any anime for that matter? In another review, Stilts’ wrote (paraphrasing) “If you’re going to make a [certain type] of anime, you should make it the best [type of anime] you can.” I enthusiastically endorse this sentiment. Opinions will vary, but for me, I can’t see how any of the cuts/changes made by the anime to the source material’s story & characters are for the better. It’s really a shame b/c I love the anime character designs along with the OP/ED. Personally I have no issues at all with the animation or CGI. This show was at the very top of my list this season. Sorry if my post seems too negative, but I’d be lying if I wrote anything other than I’m disappointed. If you like the anime and haven’t read the manga, my advice is to read the manga – AFTER the season’s over.
I agree with what you wrote, but that isn’t the issue.The issue is that you have two ARMED factions in opposition, and the I’m supposed to believe that the Navy side just goes “OK, we’ll leave”? Even IF no shots are fired, there would be a stand off for some period of time along with Kamikage notified of the situation since he’s running the Navy side of things. It’s a completely different impression – the all the rifles pointed at I-401 when they first entered, etc. are in stark contrast to how the manga showed an almost surprisingly warm welcome for I-401 by the JPN Navy.As for WWII, believe me, I’m well aware of the friction between Commander in Chief, United States Fleet Admiral King & the USN vs. MacArthur. FYI, it was King, not Nimitz, who hated MacArthur. Admiral Nimitz was fairly easy going for a top level-commander and just wanted to do whatever was best to win the war. IMO, Nimitz is at the very top of ALL WWII military commanders. Don’t get me started on MacArthur. LOLBesides, you don’t even have to go to another country to find dissension between Army and Navy. IJN and IJA Army were often at odds. The IJA HC was against Adm. Yamamoto’s Midway plan until the Doolittle raid, and even after that a big part of the IJA agreement was due to the fact the army had little involvement in the way of troops. Plus, the IJA still insisted upon IJN support for the invasion of Port Moresby (which of course resulted in the Battle of the Coral Sea) as a prerequisite to agreement of the Midway plan.
@ Daikama that analogy is too extreme. The closest I can think of is making a documentary where its just the US against the entire Axis nations and that the other Allies, USSR and UK don’t exist at all. And that the US singlehandedly wipes out Germany, Italy and Japan. But jokes aside, I really dislike how they removed what u said earlier. They made it really ‘simplistic’, when in the manga the factions were divided into sub-factions, with the JMSDF/JSDF rivalry , Scarlet Fleet(Musashi) vs Yamato (Admiralty Code) vs Kongou rivalry, and of course Gunzou’s wild card faction
Agree entirely with you about all the faction/sub-faction and plots/subplots. That complexity is a BIG reason I like the manga so much. All these “political” machinations remind me a bit of A Game of Thrones. So many plot threads that it’s hard to unravel which makes things (IMO) very interesting and hard to predict.As for your alternative analogy, I don’t see how leaving out both the USSR & UK is less extreme than leaving out Japan OR USSR from a WWII documentary. Seems more extreme to me if you remove two major players instead of “just” one. If I understand you correctly, your analogy does have a point about illustrating how in the anime far it’s I-401 vs. “everyone” type of scenario.As for your spoiler commentI don’t think you can group Yamato with the Admiralty Code into one faction. She’s looking for the Admiralty Code like Shozou/Musashi (Scarlett Fleet). Personally, so far for the manga I have the main factions as Scarlett Fleet vs. Yamato (IJN Fleet) vs. “Humanity” (including Blue Steel Fleet) vs “Admiralty Code”/Unknown Fleet (US based FoF Fleet???). The last one is my own theory/educated guess, but clearly someone/something used the Admiralty Code and that entity doesn’t want to be found/lose control of the Admiralty Code to Yamato, Musashi/Shozou, etc. Thus I list it as its own faction.
I wonder what happens when Iona pull up her skirt instead of her shirt?
She opens her torpedo tube doors? 😛
I’m not a manga reader, but I have taken a LOT of interest in this series. So if you say that the anime is diverging from what really happens in the manga, what do you advice?Should I read the manga while the anime is still fresh?Should I finish the anime and then read the whole manga for comparison?And lastly, are there sad parts here like a crew leaving/dying and what are the good parts? It’s okay to spoil me, I will click on those spoiler tags 🙂
@pahlavi5312:My honest advice to you is watch the entire anime season first, THEN read the manga. You’ll get spoiled from the anime in terms of the manga, but on the whole, I still think you’ll really enjoy the manga whereas I’m definitely not sure if the opposite (read manga then watch anime) is true. In either case, I do NOT recommend clicking on all the spoilers – at least not those like the one I clearly marked “for up to date manga readers only.”
Thanks for the reply. I’m actually thinking of doing that cause the disappointment will be less. That’s also what I did with Soul Eater and I got happy that the manga was better than the anime.Just to prepare myself, any sad event here? I have watched shows like Code Geass and some Gundam titles and I wish someone prepared me for the feels there.
@pahlavi5312Seems like all I’ve done is post spoilers :<, but since this appears to be important to you:Been a LONG time since I watched any Gundam titles so can’t actually remember the reference. Really don’t want to give anything away and “sad” is relative. I think it’s safe to say that there are no hugely depressing moments (so far), though there might be couple of things which some describe as “sad” or “touching”. It’s really not a grim/dark story (so far). Certainly less so IMO than say Shingeki. Sorry if that’s not sufficiently detailed, but I really think you’ll enjoy the anime and manga more with fewer specific spoilers.
That’s all I need to know. Thank you so much!! 🙂
“In response to popular demand, both Zanibas (caps) and I (post itself) will be combining together to give Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova weekly coverage, and it really is as they say: two heads are better than one.”Now the we set sail officially and see how Gunzou becomes one great Admiral! Also Takao going deredere
To be honest, I’m not at all surprised by the sheer amount of changes that were made to the original source material due to budget/time/whatever constraits. Despite this, I’ve decided to just accept this reality and move on by sitting back and enjoying the cruise from here on; it’s better to accept and appreciate this anime for what it is instead of what it isn’t. Doing that will just make the experience all the more enjoyable in the end. And who knows, if it does well enough to get a second season, we may still be able to see some of the material that had to be cut out, including Yamato’s character (if she doesn’t show up later on in the story).
Since 401’s sister namely 400 and 402 made an appearance, then there’s high chance of Yamato appearing in this anime.
So, Iona gets more and more understanding of human world – and goes beyond kuudere “I’m only a weapon following orders.” Nice to see that she has taken protection of Chihaya as her goal in life. This seems to even impress the former Admiral…Meanwhile, on the Fog side, Takao’s dere has smacked down her tsun hard and she has head full of fantasies of Chihaya as her captain. Can’t wait to see their actual meeting. And Kongo sends two of her historically sister ships – Haruna and Kirishima to deal with I-401. Finally, on the land side of the things, faction distrustful of Iona and Chihaya makes its move. Of course this ends with Iona twisting their arms (gently) and our crew setting out to deal with incoming battlewagons of the Fog…
Someone cited time and money issues about the series, and that’s correct. The amount of money to make a series completely in 3DCGI must be astronomical, and it’s no wonder that Arpeggio, even with an extended (and epic) manga, is only 13 eps. Having said that, and with the cuts already done, kudos for the anime staff, because this is clearly more orientated to people that haven’t read the manga. Obviously, we all have the advantage of the whole picture, but the series manages to be interesting stand alone, and that’s a major archivement up to now (eat more humble pie, Trigger, Sunrise and KyoAni!!)
And this brings in a very serious problem. Why must they insist on animating a series in 3DCGI if they know that they are going to run into money issues? Why can’t they do something similar to Girls Und Panzer or IS, where only the battles are CGI animated? If they followed GuP’s path then the insane cuts would most likely wouldn’t have happened, or the cuts would be less than before. Plus, judging by the opening, it seems like Gunzou’s next battle will not be shown at all. Its a key battle which shows how human Gunzou is, and how divided humanity truly is. And this irks me a lot, which didn’t help when I read that the director for this anime IS the director that butchered DeSU2 and Danganronpa . In all honesty, I’d rather Acta take over this show even if it means the possibility of having to wait weeks for the next episode. But the best chance would be probably a Strike Witches-esque scenario, where the (potential) Aoki Hagane season 2, or a reboot is taken over by a much much better animation studio and a director, preferably Railgun’s director.
Hmmmm….. Actas…. From the creators of GuP……. That’ll be good…..Handled by JC Staff and Railgun2’s director….. That’ll be sheer awesomeness
Actas or Ufotable for the animation, Tatsuyuki Nagai as the director. Yuki Kajiura or Hiroyuki Sawano for the OST. I think we can be prepared for an insane ride if that happens.
Oh and Seiji Kishi should be henceforth banned from directing any anime based off games or manga or LN. The only anime he should be allowed to direct are original ones.
Perhaps to show the other Studios, what they are capable of? Until now, they where a Sub worker animation Studio, right?
Well, from my experience, anime companies have always used 3DCG when budgets were constrained, because once you make the models, you don’t need any more resources and can focus on animating, while conventional anime work by hand and computer as we know it. The character and ship models are already there for Arpeggio. Properly rigged, there is no need to make any changes to any of these models. The difficult thing, apart from animation, would be the background resources, of which there are a lot more, but I assume like with movies and games, they only render what is visible on camera and leave the rest as empty space. It’d be easy enough to split the work between different modelers and riggers. It might be a problem that, because full-3DCG isn’t often employed, there might be few qualified people for those positions.Overall, THE hardest part of making a 3DCG anime would be the animation, as there is always the clunkiness of software-based animation, especially in a deadline-focused environment. Animating itself isn’t hard, but animating well is difficult. It gets easier with practice, but there are always limitations, whether in personal skill or software. (Just take a look at RWBY, it’s being worked on by a great animation team but the software is restricting them, ridiculously so).
Forgot this for above post.TLDR; It wouldn’t be more expensive (less expensive is more likely) to animate in full 3DCG as opposed to traditional animation.
I think your premise (“The amount of money to make a series completely in 3DCGI must be astronomical,”) is wrong: if you look at anime TV series in general, 3DCGI is often used for parts where traditional animation would be to expensive to use for the production company.
sea battle….. cant wait till next week.
The new pic for “Cause I feeeeeeel” meme or “I came” memes.
O well… She did want Gunzou to come aboard her and take full command of her
“He can use me in ways that I’ve never been used before”?
I’M WET!!!
That kind of thinking shows you’re an expert
is it just me or is the fleet of fog using javascript?
Not javascript, C++
I thought it was C/C++. I don’t think Java has the scanf function.
Java and JavaScript is something completely different, but of course both don’t have scanf.
Aside from everything else everyone mentioned, the other big change I’m disappointed by is the lack of the luminescent communication tribal markings that appear on the Mental Models’ faces as they communicate with one another. The Tea Room’s fine for general reflections, but darn it, I want to see them communicate like in the manga, further emphasizing their still relatively inhuman nature.
Thank you so much for Covering this Anime
Because i got Hooked.This Anime is Germanguy approvedMe like it!!p.s. and the CG Anime Skin increase. Just Plain CG Skin is Render friendly, but they look like Puppets or Robots.Btw, is I402 like the real Submarine? I read they rebuild it, as “Support Submarine” (Wikipedia)
Btw, this kind of CG Anime Chars is not New.Check this AMV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc2Y1BU2N4AIt is from the Anime: Freedom (2006) more are in the Video Infos
made by Katsuhiro Otomo
Check out “Appleseed” to see high-quality CG cell-shaded anime (do not watch the series, because it poorly made. Watch the movies).
I’m trying to imagine what the equivalent editing would be in say LOTR. Saruman gone? Elves? Ents? Maybe the second volume? That’s how bad I think its getting.
With a lot of others, glad the show got picked up.
Did anyone else find the way their hair was moving in the wind unsightly?Kirishima is a babe.
glad the show gonna be covered weekly!i went ahead and read the manga..lol coulndt stop and read all the translkated chapters on 1 siting.. (like 4 hrs) .. gotta say they do seem to have done a LOT of editing for the anime adaptation.. even if we are just on the 3rd ep! hope they dont mess the adaptation . the original material (manga) is pretty nice.
Iona: hmph!!Gunsou: what is it?Iona: they’re scanning me.Gunzou: Does it hurt?Iona: no. it just tickles.me grins.Iori: Iona, please open your bellyIona lifts shirt, I-401 aytomatically opens hull.me nearly falls to the floor laughing. gotta love those double entendres.would really be disappointed if they would cut the series short. the manga has rich material and i would love to see it whole in the anime.i am a bit worried now since hakugei was never mentioned.
Damn straight! I’m excited to see this on the site now! Totally needed to be on here xD. I’m amped for next week, two battleships against I-401! This is going to be a treat!
The anime is making Iona cuter than the manga depicted, which is a welcome change.I don’t like them leaving out so much story though. I think they can still install Yamato’s influence into this, but the first sonar operator girl and Hakugei seems like completely out of the story
well, at least they showed makie okasabe outright, which meansthey are definitely going to do the whole haruna-makie storyline, yay!
Just a Question.Say their Engine is something with Gravitation or not?They could theoretical Fly in the Sky. Well, the Submarines are more Suitable for this, in terms of Speed. Water Residents is nearly the same like Wind ResidentsIt’s like “Gargantia” Thin can :). And, if they would let the Battleship hover or Fly in the Sky, they just need to Turn up side down, to Shoot their Guns to Earth direction… There is no Human Crew on Board…Well, in case of Submarine Weapons, the Battleships is of cover in advantage when it comes to Firepower on Air. Torpedoes dont like to Fly 🙂 You saw how accurate this Torpedo-rocket was in Episode 1 flying 🙂 or I-401 has captured some Air Rockets from Loot
if you say, “the Weight Stress is to much on the Ships/Submarines Body, it will break!”. Then why they dont break in a Dry Dock? 🙂 Of course you must take the G Force into Account… They where build to hold against Water Pressure, not G Forces
or I-401 could use some Gravitation Engine Power Output Spikes, to jump like a Flying Fish out of the Water
Gain Speed, Crash/Emergency Emerge, switch somehow the Center above the Body more to the Nose, lunatic Engine drive (You overload your Engine with more then 100% lets say 120% in short time), Crash Dive
The Nose Pedals of the Submarine, should give you a bit of Control, so that you would not roll over
Of course, if you do that Tactic with a Real Life Submarine, you get the risk, that your boat will tear apart after reentry (When the Nose will come down). So, you should not do that at Home Kids, let this be in Anime World. Perhaps the Klein field, can play the Shock Absorber here..This is just a “Piece of my Mind”, how they can put i-401 into a Flying Fish for a Battle surprise tactic
Ships is impossible, to many superstructure, that will break, and perhaps their Klein field will overused and cannot absorb the shock
Reminder: This is my way of Speculation. If my Bullet is a Hit, then please dont tell me.
Let me guess, this Little Miss. Will be a Important Person or Mental Model? Why? Because they let not known us her name, and Parents… But she like to touch Butts 🙂
forgotten Link: http://images.randomc.net/Aoki%20Hagane%20no%20Arpeggio%20Ars%20Nova/Aoki%20Hagane%20no%20Arpeggio%20Ars%20Nova%20-%2003%20-%20Large%2011.jpg
I’m liking how they chose to adapt the series, but I do miss the SD aspects from the manga. IN particular, how the mental models multi-tasked by creating “mini-me”s of themselves. It’s nothing particularly significant, it just added another degree of cuteness to the series.
Man… im seriously sad at the way it’s going right now. Mind you, i still love the animation and all that stuff, but the signs of source-material-butchering is always unpleasant to see.I’m VERY concerned at the next episode. They left out a LOT of important events that could potentially cripple this show.
I’ve had some time to digest what I saw and re-read the chapters it covered, and I have to say I’m disappointed with the direction they are taking. Here is a small list of the changes that were made that are troublesome.-Supreme Flagship Yamato is omitted completely. Considering that one of her mental models is directly related to Gunzou’s past AND is a major player pulling the strings behind the plot, this means many further storylines will have to be altered.-There was no mention of the Hakugei III, Maruri, Uragami, or Kamikage. This means it will be the 401 solo against the two battleships, which means FAR less tactics than in the manga. Hell, Iona didn’t even leave behind a Corrosive Torpedo that is used in the fight as a trump card.-The Vibration Warhead was completely forgotten about.-Iona never left the 401, which means she wasn’t at the dinner. She was never called a monster, and she did not attack Kita’s men. In fact…-Kita never threatened them at all. He never had his men draw guns on them, and he let them leave after talking a bit. He never once called Iona a monster and never implied that he left that Gunzou was incapable of handling the 401. In the anime, he’s more of a blunt force person than a keen strategist he is in the manga. He comes across as a cartoon villain.-Makie was completely changed. I’m incredibly concerned they are going to gloss over her importance to the plot. She is incredibly important to many different sections and this change has far reaching consequences.This feels like World War Z’s movie was to the book. It might be a good action anime, but it’s sacrificing a lot of the incredibly well written plot to do so. And the plot was what brought me to this series in the first place…
Well, this is called Animation. or in short Anime. And thanks for Spoiling so much Infos from the Manga 🙂
you not curios, what the Anime has on Secrets for the Manga Fans?Seems like you found some of them. You just wanted a spoiled Animated Manga, or you want to see a curios Anime that base on the Manga?
Okay, i post here. I saw Episode 4and for not spoiling to much…This Show seems still have many Secrets about these “Mental Models AI” and their “Homes”